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 Post subject: Advice on excessive body roll on t2 008
PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:22:10 
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I´m experiencing a lot of body roll on my t2 008. Noticed that the motor is scratch from it.
Running 17.5 non turbo on tarmac and using the factory set up on the. In some corners it´s almost on two wheels and coming out of corners i can´t quite get the drive since it´s leaning so much.
Would you change the roll centre or go for stiffer springs.
I´m using the ltc-r body shell.


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 Post subject: Re: Advice on excessive body roll on t2 008
PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:28:20 
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higher a little bit roll center
wider rear wheelbase
anti-roll bar on rear
stiffer springs

as you see you've a lot of options


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 Post subject: Re: Advice on excessive body roll on t2 008
PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 21:28:18 
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I am really surprised you are experiencing this using kit settings.

Try the car with a different bodyshell, in my experience the LTC-R is quite unforgiving and very pointy.
Check the car to make sure it is setup properly and nothing is binding/broken.
I cannot recall off-and the 008 kit settings but I agree with Stanley fit a rear roll bar if one is not present.

Taking the actions suggested by Stanley will all help BUT I just do not think the 008 should be handling like this.

The only variable to my 008 experience is the bodyshell which I never ran on the 008.


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 Post subject: Re: Advice on excessive body roll on t2 008
PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 21:50:09 
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Maybe it's just different tyres. I use GRP rubber tyres that I have left and VTEC tyres. The GRP have a bigger diameter that will lift the CG very noticable. With the kit setup I had pretty much a good feeling on the smaller VTEC and with the same setup and the bigger GRP I have had a lot of rolling and even roll overs.


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 Post subject: Re: Advice on excessive body roll on t2 008
PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 13:26:30 
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Dont´t get me wrong. The car does handle quite well. Good balance, good traction. Good turn in and good in slow corners. It´s in medium to fast corners the car rolls a lot, and it´s more so with the ltc-r then when i used the mazda 6. I still manage to do okish lap times. Realized there are a few things different on the setup on my car, using the softest chassis flex and asphalt-spec upper deck. When one of the team drivers helped me with setup up a few weeks ago and he did say he thought the suspension was rather soft.
What i´m looking for is to keep similar balance to the car but dialing out the roll in fast corners. And regarding tyres, i´m using either RP30 or sorex 32 and i can´t notice any difference. I just wanted to hear how other people would change the setup to improve the car. I know it difficult if you haven´t seen or driven the, but i´m trying to udnerstand what all the setup options do and effetc the car.


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 Post subject: Re: Advice on excessive body roll on t2 008
PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 22:22:35 
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we'he already said
buy anti roll bars!!!
if you dont want to buy them,make your car wider
and glue the outer edge of your tires


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 Post subject: Re: Advice on excessive body roll on t2 008
PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 00:30:00 
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Hi Martin, can you advise

what shocks you are using front and rear
ditto shock oil
ditto roll bars if you have any
ditto ride height

Also just to be sure, are you comparing the LTC-R to a Mazda 6 or a Mazda speed 6.


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 Post subject: Re: Advice on excessive body roll on t2 008
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