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 Post subject: How do I get more grip ?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 21:03:19 
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Hi,

I'm running a T3 standard kit spec apart from I've change the shock oil to 500cst (think that's about 40w ?) being new to this I'm not sure what to adjust first. It feels like my car needs more grip front and back but probably more so on the back, into the corners the back seems to just loose it and also does it sometimes when I put on the power out of the corner. So what should I try first :oops:

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 Post subject: Re: How do I get more grip ?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 21:04:53 
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You need to tell us what class you run and what sort of track surface and tyres etc.

First of all, why the change in the oil?


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 Post subject: Re: How do I get more grip ?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 21:08:26 
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Hi,

Aldershot, Sorex 32's and 17.5t. The grip does pick up after a few cars have run but I still think mine's lacking grip. I changed the oil as speaking to others said the kit oil was a bit thin for there :?

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 Post subject: Re: How do I get more grip ?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 20:11:35 
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what addative ? what temp do u heat ur tyres to ? what camber ? springs ? rebound etc ??


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 Post subject: Re: How do I get more grip ?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 20:21:45 
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Hi,

I was setting my car nearly as per one of your set up sheets :)

Nosram additive, tried 60deg then down to 45deg, springs 3.0 front and 2.6 back, camber 2deg front and back and rebound hmmm don't really have much luck when trying to set the rebound but I do get them to all match as close as possible.


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 Post subject: Re: How do I get more grip ?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 22:30:46 
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nosram addative isnt great at aldershot tbh .
the set up i posted (10.5) had amazing grip . come a see me and i will give u some of my wfx addative


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 Post subject: Re: How do I get more grip ?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 09:17:04 
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Hi,

if the traction is not very high try to use no additive, only warm the tires on 60 deg.

Regarding to higher traction, please check set up book, there is explained all in details

But quick help:

3.5 toe in in the rear
more up rear shock on the shock tower
350 shock oil in all shocks
inside roll bar position on the rear arm
low roll center position on both front and rear arms


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 Post subject: Re: How do I get more grip ?
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 Post subject: Re: How do I get more grip ?
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yeah sure is . the locked 1 is for modified the droop rele helps with the bumpy sweeper at aldershot
hpi silver/pink are close to xray 2.8/3.0


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 Post subject: Re: How do I get more grip ?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 20:12:53 
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hey saw , how was your grip and car last sunday ??


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 Post subject: Re: How do I get more grip ?
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Thanks Glen. We also run a shorter wheelbase at Bashley but I am setting it back to your setting for Aldershot and swapping the Speed 6 for the Alfa (yeah I know you like the Speed 6 there :lol: ) which I reckon will help settle the car on the sweeper. We'll give your droop settings a go on Saturday and see how that goes.


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 Post subject: Re: How do I get more grip ?
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let me know how the changes go for you . not so sure on the alfa tho :}


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 Post subject: Re: How do I get more grip ?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 21:21:25 
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Not used it there before but nothing ventured nothing gained :D We did a back to back with the Speed 6 at Bashley 2 years ago an liked it. It didn't respond to turn in quite like the Mazda but was a good settled ride. Lap times were very comparable. We then tried it at Bedworth when Craig won the juniors and we preferred it and used it at Cotswolds too so it seems to work for us on more open tracks than Bashley. That was though all 27T so we will take it with an open mind!


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