XRAY - Model racing cars

David in St. Louis you started with the Mugen and switched to the Kyosho. What did the Kyosho do better than the Mugen ? Also what does the Xray do better than the other 2 ? I'm currently driving a Mugen and also have a Kyosho. There are some things about each car I like. I actually think I would be faster with the Kyosho. Which tells me the XK8 might be a great choice since everyone says it handles like a kyosho with more steering. I struggled in St. Louis getting the car to be any good and was never satisfied. You guys are lucky I live in Toronto Canada and it is maybe 50 degrees farenheit.

Judging from Paco's measurements,
the Xray light blue springs are almost equal to Kyosho blue or Mugen grey in the back and slightly stiffer than kyosho blue and a lot softer than mugen grey up front.

I can see changing to kyosho blue up front, but it doesn't seem neccesary to change to mugen greys at all, unless you want something even stiffer than the xray dark blues up front.

Considering the light weight of this buggy, mugen springs seem to be a big no-no.

its better to mod it like this

Any new set-up info ?

Those comments were directed towards the 777, the rear arms are B4 copys.

Here are two setups that I have liked very much on two totally different style tracks, good news is they are very similar, but these can be improved and will be

Georgetown: High traction, Hard packed, Chameleon track
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Johnny Cool Guys: Medium/Low traction, Semi-loamy soft or dry dust, Komodo II track
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One of my teammates just reminded me that it would be important to post what my driving style is. I look like I am going very slow on the track, the car never is pitched, tight lines, and tires almost never spinning. That being said, I do try to test my setups by driving aggressive with them to see their limits and with the Johnny Cool Guy setup I found if I drove hard the rear would get loose and the nose or rear would slap the face of some of the sharper angled jumps if I came in too fast where some cars could do whatever speed they wanted. Granted, coming in fast to the jumps slowed you down even if your car could do it.

Both setups I started with Gene's setup and built from there, next track I goto I will return the car back to the middle settings and work out. If I find a trend of a change I keep making from all the different tracks than I will add that to my standard setup, but need more time to do that.

The Johnny Cool Guy race I didn't have my race partner with me and he is a great test for setups that we come up with because he is pro on-road guy but new to offroad. So when he drives, I get to watch and see where the car has its weaknesses, as opposed to when I drive it I can use the weaknesses as strengths with more control. The Georgetown setup was done with his help and I will be working more on that setup in a week or so.

Hope that helps, thanks JD for the tip, didn't even cross my mind on mentioning this.

David I as talking with Ralph on the weekend in Cleveland. He says alot of guys complain about having to much steering. Is it just a set-up issue ? At times with my Kyosho the rear would be very loose under power exiting corners. The same for my mugen. I was running the Crono RS5. Just had to be smoother with the throttle delivery. The onroad guys are going to be running the car as well. That should be interesting. Josh can race offroad as he has for kyosho in the past. It should be intersting to see how they do. There is no question about there driving ability but the bumps and jumps timing might take a while. I just wish i could be there the first time a few of them drive the the XB8 and see there reactions. Ralph is going to be busy putting the team together. Thanks for the info.