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 Post subject: More stearing
PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 01:20:44 
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I seem to running at full lock on the car and radio setting and still feel as if the car needs more steering. What changes can I make to a car to get the more steering and be able to turn down the radio settings to give more scope on radio adjustments. I am running a T4-14 and will post a setup sheet as soon as I can


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 Post subject: Re: More stearing
PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:40:36 
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waiting for the set up


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 Post subject: Re: More stearing
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xform/index.php?act=print&ID=156&setup=t4_2014

I have posted the setup sheet


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 Post subject: Re: More stearing
PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 15:42:00 
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You've not filled in camber links or shock positions, personally I would try laying rear shocks down a hole, then standing fronts up a hole and possibly a stiffer front springbut all 1 at a time and give each a good few laps to see the differences


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 Post subject: Re: More stearing
PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 17:10:32 
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2mm front inner camber link
droop front 5.5
reduce rear toe in,put the 1mm to the outer lower hole on the rf's for 2.5 toe in
2.7 front springs
and if you need more then a 1.3 front arb


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 Post subject: Re: More stearing
PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 17:50:05 
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Thanks for the replies I will post a PDF version if you can't see the full set up sheet and will let you know how I get on


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 Post subject: Re: More stearing
PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 20:47:42 
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Off the top of my head;

Reduce Rear camber.
Put Centre post in
Stiffer rear springs.
Front shocks in hole 2
Kit rear roll centre's, and/or less rear toe


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 Post subject: Re: More stearing
PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 22:12:39 
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That's interesting Skiddins, what will stiffer rear springs alter to give more steering or less under steer?


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 Post subject: Re: More stearing
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What spring would you go up to


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 Post subject: Re: More stearing
PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 22:49:08 
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Ah that's the point I was missing on or off power under steer


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 Post subject: Re: More stearing
PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 23:03:56 
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It depends. Do you need more on or offpower steering? Or more overal steering?

If you have enough traction, I'd go to 2.5° rear toe. This is how I always run the car. Even on low-med grip.


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Took the car out last night and firstly from the changes that where suggested I put the rear toe to 2.5 and boom just got loads of steering to which I had to ramp down all the radio settings happy days.
This know has fetched another issue up in that the car now as it turns in seems to be collapsing in the corner and throwing the rear out by the end of the Evening I seemed to cure this a bit by standing the rear shocks up bug not cured it completely

Any suggestions


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 Post subject: Re: More stearing
PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 21:39:30 
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Out of interest what are you doing with tyre prep? I.e. What additive when and how much?
My setup calls for non on front till grip starts to come up then track dependant if I want rotation or not


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I have 5 droop frot and 4 rear with 2.5 springs around.
Tyre prep I use full on all tyres and


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