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 Post subject: Corner speed
PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:23:41 
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What makes car to have more corner speed?
higher roll center?
what?
pls,help me


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 Post subject: Re: Corner speed
PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 14:49:54 
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1st. buy new model and start drive :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Corner speed
PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 15:40:50 
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-.-
and then?
but seuriosly,guys,help


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 Post subject: Re: Corner speed
PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 17:28:27 
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1 hole rear uprights, changes in setup, Harder tires, Heavier shock oil, heavier diff oil. Gear diff in front,


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 Post subject: Re: Corner speed
PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 17:31:44 
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what about the roll center?


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 Post subject: Re: Corner speed
PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 18:43:05 
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higher :wink: read setup book


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 Post subject: Re: Corner speed
PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 19:43:49 
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There's no formula for higher corner speed directly. You need to see what happens to the car if you try to run through corners faster than the car actually could handle with the setup used. Once noticed that (like i.e. traction rolling, understeering or too much initial steering) you can work against these 'bad habits'. Of course there's a limit at a certain point. :-)


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 Post subject: Re: Corner speed
PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 21:28:35 
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okey....
next question...
if my rear is jumping because of too much grip what should i do?


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 Post subject: Re: Corner speed
PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 23:33:21 
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In this case I would start with almost no rebound in the rear, then using one hole more outside on the rear shock tower and if this is not helping enough I then would use the outer camber link on the rear hubs. And finally but just when really needed I would raise the rear roll center to decrease rear grip a little. But the steps before should help already.


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 Post subject: Re: Corner speed
PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 09:55:53 
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or may i use thicker oil?


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 Post subject: Re: Corner speed
PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 13:19:53 
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Yes you could use thicker rear shock oil. But a setup should always be as soft as possible and as hard as needed. So I really would start with less rebound and so on. These things are done fairly quick I would say. What oil/piston/spring do you run in the rear? I assume you run on carpet meanwhile, right?


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 Post subject: Re: Corner speed
PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 14:32:56 
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Possible also try changing the rear roll bar


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 Post subject: Re: Corner speed
PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 14:43:02 
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yes,now i run on carpet,but tracks are very diffrent
i dont have local carpet track,unfortunatuly:(

i had 300 with 4holes

i changed anti roll bar on rear from 1.2 to 1.4

is stiffing the chassis gives me more corner speed?(stiffing by using more srews in top deck)


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 Post subject: Re: Corner speed
PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 18:19:28 
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on carpet use 450-650 oil in shocks , lime me


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 Post subject: Re: Corner speed
PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 18:35:00 
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Yes, I run F/R 550/450, 3-hole, 28lb/17.5lb springs with rubbers on carpet. I use **** ARB F/R. For trackwidth I use 1mm spacers around in the front and 2mm spacers around in the rear. (tight track) Maybe I change to 1mm spacers around in the rear, too. 300 with 4-hole pistons is really too soft for carpet.


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 Post subject: Re: Corner speed
PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 22:16:01 
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ok
i will try with 500
but what if i use on front 300 and on rear 500?
and the opostie(f-500 r-300)
whatsa gonna happen in those two "options"?


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 Post subject: Re: Corner speed
PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 23:17:40 
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car will be crazy :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Corner speed
PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 23:23:48 
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i wanna serious repleies


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 Post subject: Re: Corner speed
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It might be better if you completely fill out an online setup sheet and link to it here so everyone can look at it for you.

It's hard to advise what to do if we don't know what you have already.

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