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SHOCK OIL FOR INITIAL BUILD
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Author:  Loheswaran [ Fri Feb 04, 2011 02:42:50 ]
Post subject:  SHOCK OIL FOR INITIAL BUILD

Now i know that the T3'11 comes with 350wt oil, but all the set-ups I have seen on the forum set-ups page for high grip carpet seems to point towards 450 - 500wt oil.

I also read that the first round ETS, when the t3'11 was new - the set up was not so good - assuming kit '350 oil' was used.

Author:  Phil C [ Fri Feb 04, 2011 14:20:19 ]
Post subject:  Re: SHOCK OIL FOR INITIAL BUILD

Hi,

Which track will you be racing at in the UK? What would you say the grip level is like?

A lot of the team setups are with the aluminium shocks with 1.1 x 3 hole pistons... The kit comes with plastic shocks with 0.9 x 3 hole so I would suggest running a little thinner to get a comparable damping effect.

I would say 350-400 is a good starting point for most tracks with the kit shocks.

Hope this helps,

Phil Chambers
XRAY UK

Author:  Martin Hudy [ Mon Feb 07, 2011 19:23:30 ]
Post subject:  Re: SHOCK OIL FOR INITIAL BUILD

Hi,

when the traction is low - we use 350
when is medium - 400-500
when is high - 600 but only on carpet

At ETS we were using 550 because the car with those tires was stopping too much and therefore harder oil helped with this problem

Author:  Martin Hudy [ Mon Feb 07, 2011 19:25:01 ]
Post subject:  Re: SHOCK OIL FOR INITIAL BUILD

if we meet us in the future, please see me and ask for help if you have any problem with the car, I am more than happy when I can help our drivers with set up

Author:  Marek Gadomski [ Tue Feb 08, 2011 19:00:49 ]
Post subject:  Re: SHOCK OIL FOR INITIAL BUILD

Martin, are you going to be at polish ETS round in warsaw because i need help with the car, it is oversteer all time i've tried evrything, softer springs and others. Best effect was when i put a lot softer compound to rear, like F 32 R 24 . but other drivers with other models was driving on 32 tyres all the car. :? :cry: my car is T3 '11

Author:  Martin Hudy [ Tue Feb 08, 2011 20:00:06 ]
Post subject:  Re: SHOCK OIL FOR INITIAL BUILD

Marek,

Yes I will be there, so you can come to see me

From what I read, if you want to make the car stable, use same tires in front and rear. Soft shock oil creates even more over steering problem

Solutions:

decrease the amount of steering on your radio (when is high traction, I use 25 degrees)
put steering exponential on the radio (I use from -8 to -20 on high traction)
use the front additive only for short time (2-5min) and leave the 1/4th of the tire without additive (outside side)
put harder shock oil into the front (when my car oversteers, I use 600cst in the front and 500cst in the rear)
remove the shims on steering plate
put H roll centers in the front and use 2.5-3mm shim between C-hub and the upper linkage
put 6.4 downstop into the front
use upper arm roll center in the front

All these changes will make the car easier to drive

Author:  Marek Gadomski [ Tue Feb 08, 2011 23:02:20 ]
Post subject:  Re: SHOCK OIL FOR INITIAL BUILD

thanks a lot i'll try it on next competition :D hope it helps

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