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 Post subject: Suggest setup carpet indoor traction grip
PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 15:29:23 
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Hello eveybody.

I coment you:
I was trainning on carpet stock racing indoor track the last 2 weeks between 19:00 - 22:00 hours everyday.
But the race was yesterday on hours between 10:00 - 16:00 hours in the morning. The track have a good traction, but my car had not grip, because my setup was created for the conditions between 19:00 - 22:00 (maximum grip, which I was tranning 2 week ago).
The problem is that time race is in the morning (10:00 - 16:00) when the weather is hot. My car had not enough grip.
For the next race, I think do this:
- Softer spring shocks
- Softer shock oil
- ...

Any more idea?

Thank you very much, regards.


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 Post subject: Re: Suggest setup carpet indoor traction grip
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 01:09:15 
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Fill out one of the Xray online forms so people can see your setup, that might help.


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 Post subject: Re: Suggest setup carpet indoor traction grip
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 18:32:01 
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Hello Skiddins. I don't know exaclty what yo want to say...
Xray online forum??


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 Post subject: Re: Suggest setup carpet indoor traction grip
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 18:40:17 
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If you go here;



There is a box near the top 'Create Setup Sheet', you select your car then press the button and fill out the sheet.

Once you have saved it you can post a lik to it so we can all see what you have done. :)

Skiddins


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 Post subject: Re: Suggest setup carpet indoor traction grip
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 18:50:54 
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AAAAAAAAAAA okok, yes yes, thank you very much.

Here is my setup:

xform/index.php?act=view&ID=228&setup=t3_2012

The final drive ratio is 5.924

Regards.


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 Post subject: Re: Suggest setup carpet indoor traction grip
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 18:53:47 
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What exactly do you need the setup to do?

Is the car loose or understeering etc?


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 Post subject: Re: Suggest setup carpet indoor traction grip
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 18:54:51 
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Generally I acuse understeed an entry corner, and need more grip general.


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 Post subject: Re: Suggest setup carpet indoor traction grip
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 22:28:31 
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You could try some of the following (not all at once);

Changing front upper clamp from 1mm to 0.5 or even 0mm
Rear downstop 5
Diff oil 700
Rear upper clamp Position 1, front position 2
Shocks to position 4

If you want more grip in general you might want to go softer on the springs; 2.6 front and rear etc.

Skiddins


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 Post subject: Re: Suggest setup carpet indoor traction grip
PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 01:13:19 
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Someone you say I just thinked such as:

-Rear downstop 5
-Diff oil 700
-Rear upper clamp Position 1, front position 2

I tell you something when I tranning.

Thank you very much Skiddins. Regards.


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 Post subject: Re: Suggest setup carpet indoor traction grip
PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 23:54:29 
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I find my problem:

My car was accuse understeed because I was using different used tyres in the front and in the rear.

I was using more used tyres on the rear, with the consequence those tyres have less diameter...

For trainning I changed the tyres between front and rear, and then the car has very fast steering response, because the front tyre have less diameter.

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 Post subject: Re: Suggest setup carpet indoor traction grip
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 Post subject: Re: Suggest setup carpet indoor traction grip
PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 00:12:20 
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Yes, exactly I do that since many years. The problem was that the other new tyres was destroyed :-(

To see if I put a video :-)

Thank you Skkidins, regards.


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 Post subject: Re: Suggest setup carpet indoor traction grip
PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:18:19 
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I also think that you should try a softer front spring, 2.8, and a harder rear anti-roll bar (1.3).


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 Post subject: Re: Suggest setup carpet indoor traction grip
PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:47:12 
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I just know the softer front spring, but not the harder rear antiroll bar. Thank you very much.


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